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Episode: 1504
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Title: HPR1504: HPR at NELF 2014 Afterparty
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Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr1504/hpr1504.mp3
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Transcribed: 2025-10-18 04:25:14
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...
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Oh.
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All right, welcome, hacker public radio listeners to another episode of hacker public radio.
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We're doing our, for NELF Roundup here, the night of the Northeast Linux Fest.
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I'm Pokey and guess you don't recognize my voice.
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Next to me here is Johnathan Native, fellow people.
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Bill. Hello.
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We're on the Cody Cooper mic.
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What we were.
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Rowan Sire.
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Sarah McCouston.
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Well, Collin Carmel.
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Hey, sir.
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Mm-hmm.
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And, uh, yeah, we're wrapping up NELF.
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We're having our after party.
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We're in, uh, Johnathan's your hotel room, I think, right?
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Yes, yes.
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I never knew who's the hotel room I went up in.
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That's a problem.
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No, that's not so, that can be a good thing.
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I always asked the next morning.
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It would mean something he didn't say that every weekend of the year.
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It's only, it's only a problem with three or four times in a row that it's Chad.
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It's, it's so, uh.
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I think we lost Chad.
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Yeah.
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He made the hole on both ends of the hole.
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Did he really?
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Yeah, he said his room.
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He's out.
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Chad's a very good drinker.
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He's done.
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Well, he's good at the spread, not so good at the marathon.
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Yeah.
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Ah, nice.
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It's pretty good.
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Um, Johnathan.
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Hmm.
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How was it now?
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Honestly, I was about to say earlier, this one by far is the best one yet.
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And we probably see it every year, I imagine.
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But for real, this one was by far the best.
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I think we raised the bar this time.
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There is once the day of the event, there was zero fires to put out.
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Everyone at the hotel was extremely helpful.
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We had a few things, you know, just needed some quick help.
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They helped out.
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It was awesome.
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Great speakers, great line of speakers.
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Everyone, you know, just loved the event this year.
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Um, there are a few little tiny nitpicky things probably.
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But, you know, we had to change venue three times.
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And really, this one was kind of a blessing in the sky.
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So, I'm pleasantly surprised and very happy the way that I went.
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Yeah, I thought the hotel...
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I was pleased.
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Not that I matter.
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Um, but I thought the hotel was...
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At least you know your place.
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Thank you, Cody.
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You're welcome.
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Um, anybody else?
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Nothing.
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You're fun and anchor for reality.
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We need that.
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We really do need that in every situation.
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Yeah.
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Anybody else get anything to say about it?
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I'm a first timer up in this area.
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I'm six hours away.
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It's my first time and I'm glad I met the Packer Public Radio guys.
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Even though I listen to it pretty regularly.
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It's nice to...
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You'll be hooked now.
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To maybe do some frequent contributions.
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Just, you know, even if it's musings and three people listen to it.
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It's more than zero.
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Yeah.
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You okay to show?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So it's nice.
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Um, my job sometimes demands more of me.
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So, uh, a weekly on the dot thing may not be nice, but that's why it's nice and interesting.
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Nice.
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And we didn't get a chance to talk to you today.
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Did we for HDR?
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I did.
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Just very briefly.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Um, I have to definitely check it out.
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Yes.
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It's a lack of...
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Feels Bragg.
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I listen to a lot of podcasts.
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And it's definitely won, uh, along with, um, a couple of the other comedic podcasts that I like to listen to when I need to unwind.
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Yeah.
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Definitely really nice.
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Well, Bill had to pick a Poke Slack and use some interviews because he was holding out a chair most of the day.
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Yeah.
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Bill was the man this year.
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I, I mean, I've never tried.
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I've never tried.
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I was just repeating some of your questions that you asked people and they weren't there.
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That's kind of weird.
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Yeah.
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Did you like any talks?
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And you want to plug anything?
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Yeah.
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And those are the questions you asked me.
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I thought I was special.
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You're special.
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I'm thrilled.
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Yeah.
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Because I showed up today, like, half of me.
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I didn't have much sleep.
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I'm very tired.
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I wasn't prepared.
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I just didn't...
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This year's been a struggle anyway, especially lately.
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And Bill picked up the Slack so...
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I mean, I know, like, the first year, like, I brought all the HDR stuff.
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I kind of was the guy.
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This year, Bill was the guy.
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I felt like I was helping NYU Bill out this year.
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And Bill, thank you for that.
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That was awesome.
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It's a team effort.
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Yeah.
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It's a team effort.
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Yeah.
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But...
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I was your team.
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We are a team.
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It's we.
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It's we think.
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Yeah.
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So is this a bill interview, though?
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Well, let me tell you here.
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I definitely need to buy one of those.
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Yeah, those are cool.
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The H1.
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In fact, that H1...
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Oh, no.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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We have another one that HFAR bought.
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The community just...
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Oh, nice.
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We're sending me money.
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That's sweet.
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To buy one.
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And I bought one we had one today.
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Once I get better at post stuff.
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Because for now, Audacity's been my de facto.
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And after attending that other...
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The talk, um...
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I definitely was a cutracter.
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Really?
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Was there a cutracter talk today?
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Yeah.
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Well...
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I didn't see it.
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I didn't see it.
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I didn't see it.
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I didn't see it.
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And it got me interested in that a lot.
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Because it's non...
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Thank you.
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Non-destructive.
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So...
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Yep.
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Uh...
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So, I'm definitely checking that out.
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Because I've been a long time at Dassy Person.
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I learned by breaking things.
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So, it's something definitely to...
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You can tell me what you're thinking.
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No.
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There was a new nomination for Best Talk.
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I want to throw doors lock into the...
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Oh, nice.
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Awesome.
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I heard a lot of people say that Docker one was good.
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So...
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Oh, yeah.
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That's always good in my role.
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Oh, see.
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It does.
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It does.
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Oh, yeah.
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And I've waited a while to hear Mad Dog speak.
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So, that was something I was real happy to see.
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Yeah.
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And being my first time I was glad to see him speak.
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Yeah.
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He knows a lot.
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Totally.
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He does.
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He's kind of like...
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I don't know.
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You see the guy.
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And he seems kind of...
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Intimidating.
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Not quite intimidating.
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But...
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If there's a friendly way to intimidate, that's him.
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But then he gets to know a little bit.
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That's really a friendly, nice guy.
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I wanted to ask him about...
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Why is this?
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This is early years and what he was really like.
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No, ask him.
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No, ask him.
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And I'll tell you.
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That's interesting.
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You can do.
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Bring me age one with you.
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We're going to make a show out of it.
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That would be good.
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Was it always cursing off people?
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Yeah, right.
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Because I've seen photos.
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I've read from...
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From 90...
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From part of it.
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91 to 94.
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And...
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He can tell me off.
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People known before he exploded on the scene.
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And was featured in...
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Was it wired?
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And...
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I can't remember what year that came out.
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But I still have it.
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Yeah, because it was the first post.
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Like, hey, I made this thing.
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And he was going to like it.
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He was completely high in the wired magazine.
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But that was the start of the boom.
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It was a lot of it.
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And that's what got me interested when I read that article.
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When I debuted.
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But I was pretty young at that point.
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And not very computer savvy until I got into high school.
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Cool.
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Cool.
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Anybody else?
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Have any thoughts?
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What is this?
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We're doing sticker trades again.
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What's that film?
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We're doing sticker trades again.
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Oh, we all trade stickers.
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Oh, my God.
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Sometimes it will help.
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Thank you.
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I'll give you two of these for one of those.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I'll put these on my newer laptop.
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Yeah.
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But I've been trying...
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I didn't know what anybody else had.
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Recommendations when it comes to...
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I know I need to tell hardwares.
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Pretty good.
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No.
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But I went with the reason, which is opposite of system 76.
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Yeah.
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But my display wasn't quite happy with.
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No.
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But I didn't spend enough.
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Oh.
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I hate to hear that.
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Money solving.
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Yes.
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I should have tried a thing pad, but I'm not a fan of the newer ones, but...
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Yeah, the Lenovo's.
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I do have an old one from 2003, but it is sneering its end of life.
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I'm still one of those faithful.
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Faithful Thinkpad users.
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Oh, three.
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Yes.
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I guess 20 computers that are...
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Don't put the control in the function in the wrong spot.
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Yes, I do.
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Sometimes.
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You can remap that, though.
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It's easier for me.
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Yeah, it's easier for me.
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Anybody else have anything you want to say about the conference or talks or anything?
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Quite frankly, the guy who ran is kind of a prick.
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Yeah.
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There we go.
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No, it's safe for me.
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Oh, sorry, Jonathan.
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It's dangerous.
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I have to admit.
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I was excited and I had told two weeks ago.
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I'm like, I'm going to Harvard.
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I'm going to Harvard.
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Oh, where's this now?
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Yeah, wait.
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What?
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I'm like, what happened?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Matter of fact, let's never talk about this again.
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Yeah.
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It went from...
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I'm going to Harvard.
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I'm going to the Marriott.
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I'm probably going to have this.
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Maybe tomorrow is still...
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I don't have to do something, but...
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You do not want to drive home.
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You do not want to drive home.
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You do not want to drive home.
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There's no security.
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I do not want to drive home tonight, so.
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Yes.
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And I always are going to people from...
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Especially from far away.
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Check out the Museum of Science if you can.
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I saw that.
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Well, it takes a whole day, at least.
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That's why I got mad when I actually went to DC.
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I'm a James Bond fan.
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And I rushed to that and I was disappointed.
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Because that takes a whole day to go through that one.
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Yeah.
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The Museum of Science.
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And what was the one right down the street?
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Was there another planetarium?
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Or something?
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The Museum of Science has a planetarium at it.
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There's the aquarium.
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The corn.
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Don't go to the corn.
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Don't go to the corn.
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No.
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It's just the thing.
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No.
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You can skip the stone zoo while you're at that.
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That's something's going to skip that.
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I was planning on...
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I have not got a chance to see the Blue Man group.
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And I know they're local to...
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Yeah.
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...do shows here.
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And I thought about that or going to a socks game.
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But...
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Can't go wrong.
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So...
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My grandfather is a massive socks fan, so it's a tough decision.
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Art for baseball.
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Cool.
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Anybody else?
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I can't wait to come back next year.
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And if you're listening to this, if you haven't been to it,
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and any sort of a festival before, definitely consider going
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because meeting people online could cultivate these relationships,
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whether it be just a front-end chat or help.
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It's one thing.
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But when you get to meet those same people in person,
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it elevates it to an completely another level.
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And you feel even more of a type of part of this community.
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So...
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All right.
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And the other thing is you run into people you've been talking to
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in IRC for.
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And you don't realize this.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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And you go, oh, I just did that with someone recently.
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My friend, I knew from college.
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He was arguing with me on Reddit, on Linux subreddit.
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And he said, you know who this is?
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And I go, no.
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He goes, this is Kevin.
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I went to school with him.
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Okay.
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And it's thanks to meet people.
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And especially when they recognize you from a certain IRC
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or subreddit.
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Yeah.
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Because there's a world outside of it.
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IRC.
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And...
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What?
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No.
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I can't be.
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Yeah.
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Oh, me?
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Jack.
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That was a joke.
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Because he did his talking.
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He's like, I would do this with my son.
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And, you know, I do miles of gaming with my son.
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What?
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No way!
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You're the dude that does miles of gaming.
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You know, I listen to that with my son.
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That's awesome.
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It's pretty cool.
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He is a Walmart.
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He is holding down a bed that might float away.
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Yeah.
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Right now.
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What?
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Let's go get a word from Chad.
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If we just sum this up, he'll keep it on.
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One of the really fun things for me at a conference like this,
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is like, okay, flying rich is here.
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Yep.
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I did not know fly rich was going to be here.
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But I heard him behind me and said,
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that's flying rich's voice.
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And I heard him say, fly rich?
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He said, yeah.
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That's okay.
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I'm funky.
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And that's really cool for me, recognizing someone by voice,
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you know, before you even know what they're facing.
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Yeah, I do that all the time.
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Yeah.
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Because...
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All right, I'll sit back down.
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By the way, if anybody asks,
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Donathan, why I look like a hundred and eighty five pounds swimmer.
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Yeah.
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I can confirm this after he gives me a hundred bucks.
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I can feel it down and done.
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Yeah, me too, but I swim through Jell-O.
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Right.
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That first...
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This is the first time we've had,
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like in each pair after party, with females in the room.
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Oh, yeah.
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Would either of you like to join in until...
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Hey, ladies.
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Tell us you're not threatened.
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Hey, hey.
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All right.
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There's not a good answer.
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There's not a good gunpoint right now.
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Tell us you willfully come, came here.
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Well, very much so.
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You followed nerds.
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Yeah, that's about it.
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Did you follow nerds?
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I was going to ask, did you follow nerds here?
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Or are you nerds?
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Or both?
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Both.
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Both.
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I'm going to have to go with both.
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Yeah.
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I'm actually really looking forward to next year.
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This year, I'm very, very new to limits, like, very, very new.
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So I don't really know enough to feel like I'd be able to either get anything useful
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or contribute anything useful, which I think both is extremely important for me personally.
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But I'm certainly looking forward to next year, I think there's...
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Yeah, it's going to be quite a good one.
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Is that because you think you will know more to contribute or understand more?
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Or just that you'll know that people will feel more comfortable?
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Well, I think I can answer all of that just by saying yes.
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Okay.
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And I can, I mean, encourage me if I'm wrong.
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But as a new user, it is a bit intimidating.
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But right now, some of the questions you have, you don't know how to articulate them yet.
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Exactly.
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Yes and no.
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I mean, on the one hand, absolutely.
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I think it's by myself.
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I'd be very, very lost.
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But it's a wonderful thing in that I'm not afraid of breaking it.
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You should be.
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Whatever.
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I'll just...
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But if you do, you're going to be stopped.
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Yeah.
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Absolutely.
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That's the fun part.
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That's the fun part, right?
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Have you tried turning it out in Africa?
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And we can't do that.
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If I get hopelessly hopelessly confused and, you know, the wiki is telling me something.
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Oh, that's the best part.
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My story.
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My story is that what I actually need to know.
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I have a handy translator nearby to say, yeah, this is not a applicable situation.
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This is, though, and thanks for doing the research I didn't have to.
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Yeah.
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That is an awesome part of the community.
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Absolutely.
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If I have to do something, that takes me 20 minutes or 30 minutes.
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Yeah.
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I realize I can help someone else.
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I'll just take this up in a forum.
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Yeah.
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I'll do a little podcast about it.
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And I'll just help someone.
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Just give it back.
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I haven't even really thrilled with being here so far.
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Even though I've been on it since 04, it still blows me away when I can go on IRC and talk to a developer directly.
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It makes me feel like extra special.
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And the answer you was.
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Unless you jump into the art forms and you ask the wrong question and people hammer you down.
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That's true.
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That will make sure I hold beers with my friends before asking you to do that.
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Yeah.
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Submit an S-trace and don't look back.
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And the whole free community's that way.
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Yeah.
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Whether you have musicians or coders.
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It's the best.
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It's very important.
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My parents used to ask me why I like Linux.
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What?
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Why I do what I do.
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And I just go through all things like, oh, I look going in, changing this and that.
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And I narrowed it down.
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Everybody asked me, well, why do you use that?
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And I go, one word, it's empowering.
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It's empowering.
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I can get in.
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And even though I'm not a programmer, I can always find a breadcrumb.
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Where to go.
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How to find out what to do.
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Jump in IRC.
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Okay.
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Here's my bug report.
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Here's my S-trace.
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Here's my logs.
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What little piece am I missing?
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And from that alone, I can always find out what I'm dealing with.
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You're not a consumer using what's in there.
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I'm in that weird middle piece of device.
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You go right deep into it.
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You fix whatever.
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I love your tweak.
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Yeah, that's the interesting thing.
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Just back up.
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Back up first.
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Yeah.
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And then try.
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I'm taking ownership.
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Break it in response.
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I've learned more.
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With Arch.
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No, I've learned to keep a monthly image back up, just in case.
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Broken Arch.
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Broken Arch.
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You're out of your mind.
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You're walking the bleeding edge.
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Yeah.
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I got it through this out here.
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I had a new Linux user, and her first distribution is actually Arch.
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I know.
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That's not true.
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Well, that's the other one.
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It's all in the rewind tape.
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Well, I didn't.
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Close enough.
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Yeah.
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But hey, just in the room.
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Try to buy fire, man.
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No, no, no, no.
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That's a surprise.
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It's a little sip onto it, and I didn't like it.
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Yeah.
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It was...
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Nobody did Arch.
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I don't know what it is.
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I don't know how the hell this was going.
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She skipped ahead like a whole year by mistake.
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I don't like it.
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I don't know.
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This is nuts.
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I don't know how this was popular this year on Earth.
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Nobody I know likes.
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I've never talked to me.
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What do you think I would want to?
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I can't stand it.
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Everybody.
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Sounds fine.
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I mean, it means something.
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And they were selling shirts to promote it.
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It's all merchandise there.
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But the shirts have like the kind of silhouette
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you would see on a trucker's mud flat.
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Like I said, am I a human?
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Yeah.
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Is when I get out of it.
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And like,
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I wouldn't go over it all the time.
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Right.
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That's my grandma's house.
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Right.
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I wouldn't, yeah.
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I wouldn't go over it all the time.
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I wouldn't go over it all the time.
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Right. I wouldn't go over it all the time.
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Right. I wouldn't go over it all the time.
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Right. I wouldn't go over it all the time.
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Right. I wouldn't go over it all the time.
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In a community where we're trying, we say,
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I hear all the time, people say,
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we're trying to be more inclusive.
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It does nothing for my hip speciality.
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It's not transparent.
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It doesn't work.
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What? But Loki.
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Do you know what I'm saying?
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We're talking about what?
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We're talking about it right now, aren't we?
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What are we talking about?
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We'll get your product up.
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Yeah.
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But more specifically, because of the logo.
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Oh, yeah.
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No, I'm asking, I'm talking specifically about,
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it's like a logo.
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Yes, but small.
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That in itself is potentially the intention it's great marketing. Yeah, no, I get that if I had if I had that orange juice with a gorilla tearing a car in half
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It's the everything like what would be that gorilla what what is that in that bottle? Oh, it's orange juice. Well, I'll drink the orange juice
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I can't
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My point is we've had so much debate in the last couple years
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Oh my god, I knew it was debate, but the misogyny and
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It has isn't it right? Oh, well, that says it's a part of it a few times. Okay. It's kind of the community. Yeah, and it's not very welcoming
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Or an entry-level position and someone coming in the room for the first time
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Yeah, so aside from the fact that she's obviously not naked
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She's got boot that could be now for feet
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This this line here is clearly a boot
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So
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You do that. She doesn't have
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Not natural
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Like this and scratching in the laptop would be here somewhere just just so we're clear. Yes. Yeah, we're good expert tips
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No, no
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I just when I thought that was my thought was that does this or does this not send the wrong message
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It's not so much. I mean the shirt alone. Okay, but attached with
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Sorry
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No, I just I just was wondering if I was the only one that thought that it seemed a little more buzzword to get
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Yeah, maybe and maybe there's just so much of it. I mean it was on a big rack. It was not
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And as much stickers
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If I didn't put my money on it, it was a clever marketing decision. Yeah, it's buzzwordy
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It would just be it would want to know that was just a title was second by right but a long long with the
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picture
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Anybody I mean
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This is nothing against any of the sponsors, but right if I walk by a
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Sponsor table with a distribute it was put on by distribution like okay
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They got their stickers they got their hats they got their squishy balls they got their pens
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But I walk by his table. He's got both so he's got stickers and patches and hats and shirts all with this thing on it
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And he's got it
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Not only is the logo itself I catching but the way he has a displayed there's also I catch it where no matter where you're in the room
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You it's gonna hit your eye. Yeah, be drawn over. Yeah, that's just well. It wasn't full. Oh reject
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So okay, and I know what you're saying when you say it's it was
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Catchy buzzwordy thing. I guess is it the kind of
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It seems to be the kind of thing we're trying to discourage for the past several years as a
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They didn't have the silhouette of the of the chick on there. It was just hacknating. I mean all right
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So the naked I think it as a metaphor for like exposing
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Yes, right right
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Yes, he is just not reinforced
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If it were not
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If we're not for the silhouette, I wouldn't be asking the question
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Well, it depends if we're side-by-side with the silhouette. I probably would not ask the question if we're the only one
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I might say what are we doing?
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It was interesting when Mad Dog
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Brought up when he was any talking about how it was quite different before with with women and Unix and Linux
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But it's kind of turntables were I don't know it doesn't seem like
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With a lot of this stuff coming on the reading LKML and all those controversies is that
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And I don't know if it still seems like a man's world, which is not
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Intention that we don't want to
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Uninvite people, right
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But I think you do run a danger if you're you're trying to be too careful for the sensitivity of anybody
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Because because then because because because then you can potentially hinder progress. Yes, we want to be all inclusive to a sort of extent, but then it's
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No, I agree. There's careful is too careful. There's a line. There needs to be a dedication of focus
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But at the same time being sensitive to certain things. Okay, maybe I'm just I guess
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The difference is where do you draw the line and and that's gonna be different. My knee jerk reaction was
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That was across the line and I just was I guess I was wondering if I was alone with that
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I thought it was on the fence
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I wanted to support Paul so I bought it. Yeah, it's not a personal thing. I don't mean to detract from sorry
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Yes, so the line is on the other hand, it's a kind of over the line
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Culturally not just in this culture, but in the broader North American culture have come to expect we expect that we are going to be objectified
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We're going to be
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seen as
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Sexual beings first and anything else second we expect that we expect that going into any situation
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That includes this community it might be more so this can be because it is more shelter
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So they don't see a lot of women now when you say
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Stem no, I mean a lot of computing technology. Yeah technology. I mean it comes to play where there's this intellectual
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Community where over decades. It's always been dominated or seen as dominated by
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Men and any of the stems the science
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Yeah, and then we actually said here's a great new job opportunity for when it is to get into programming
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It so it was recognized that the hard stuff stopping and hardware real quick
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You didn't introduce yourself when you when we all did you just came in what's your name? Sorry? Oh
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Langley Langley, okay, Matthew Matthew. Okay. We'll have some new people join about this world though is that it is
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Almost unheard of in any other business where this conversation takes place at all
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You know actually
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It happens
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friends mine and in legal firms
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Me only six percent registered pilots are
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But does the Congress
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The conversation
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Does it happen does it happen among peers or is it happening with HR is another question? That's a good question
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The one
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It's more than situations
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You don't have to say that
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Yeah, I can't formally aware of right
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So like very soon like this conversation you're not just happening here
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It's happening in other fields that have traditionally been mailed on
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Not because
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It's more of an open discussion here
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Actually
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I'm glad you said it didn't mean to be a buzzkill. I bring it up
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Okay before we go much further. I'm sorry for logistical reasons we have to stop the recording pretty shortly
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So and I'm sorry to cut it off just was getting extraordinarily interesting to me anyway
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Is can we is anybody wrap up
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Things to say about North East Linux fest
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North East Linux fest. Or go check it out and make sure that you well here
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And here's here's an honest piece of advice. This should air within the next what 90 to 150 days
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So start setting aside a little bit of money now every week or every paycheck every month however you can that will ensure you get here
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It's it sounds simple. I'll do it
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I've been doing it for three years. I go to every single fest
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I want you because I make the money and I make the time to do it
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I'm trying to get a hotel room because I got to drive home tonight
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So I got to shut myself off, but there's more booze here. I see it most parties and people are are really friendly
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And for Jonathan a lot of people some people were saying I mean when I went on the website and there was
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Registration a couple things kind of the Facebook pages from 2013
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I mean, I definitely would be interested in volunteering
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Keep things up the day is as well as you give me the information
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The website really could use updated. I
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Would have no problem doing a new section is still no content
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I make use of
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Autoposts and past things over
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I would love to do it. It's a lot of fun promoting that stuff and
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You know tweeting out to people and
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Building up Facebook stuff and and even when it comes to advertising
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It's it's not a big deal for me to during an event to chip in
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$25 of Facebook accurate. It's the throw some stuff out. Sure. I do that pretty out every couple times
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During the year very cool. Sure
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Name any means I talked to somebody who said we invested in this before
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Didn't there wasn't worthwhile so I'm not gonna come back
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And so it's it seems like some like more organization and promotion
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Was that this year that they invested or last year?
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Yeah, yeah, there were some fires to put out last year's Jonathan. I mean I would answer you know
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I would be no problem answering emails all that sort of stuff and being
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Point you know want to chip in yeah, I mean it's fun because when I see it happen when you go on the website or go on things
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And it's like well what happened this one? I have a that and you might pick up a piece in for there
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I actually did not even know was at this convention center until things changed and
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It's one of those things where yeah if you have a few more manpower makes all the difference
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Yeah, yeah, I also didn't know it was relocated and so I got my ticket which was in specific times
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I was interested in talking to people running it at Harvard and let it move psych. Oh, nobody told me it moved
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Yeah, there wasn't quite as much podcast presses. There was in years prior. Yeah, well, I don't really follow podcasts
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See them because I don't have the test difficult talking
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The Twitter updates helped some of the organizing face-to-face meetings then
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Put it writing I can scan sure the writing but like you know an hour long podcast and the information somewhere in the middle
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I don't have time for that sure. All right
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You we got we got a wrap up. Well, I just
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I want it. I really would like to hear a chance to speak what we got a wrap up
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So I guess just thanks to everyone who's in the room for coming to the fest for coming to the after show
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Certainly, this is not everyone who's at the festival to everyone who's listening
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Thanks for listening. Please try to make it to
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Northeast Linux fest 2015
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Or whatever festival is in your area. There are cool people doing cool stuff
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Open source they want to share they want to help and they want you to help and join in too
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And just just friendly people they're there and there's going to be festivals and you ought to make it to one
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