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Episode: 1641
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Title: HPR1641: The real reasons for using Linux
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Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr1641/hpr1641.mp3
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Transcribed: 2025-10-18 06:13:57
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It's Monday 17th of November 2014, this in HBR episode 1641 entitled, The Real Reason
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for Using Linux.
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It is hosted by Johan and is about 18 minutes long.
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Feedback can be sent to Johan.vervloat at e-mail.com or by leaving a comment on this episode.
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The summary is, The Real Reason for Using Linux.
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Hello Hacker Public Radio, I am Johan V. I am a Linux user since the end of 1999.
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I still have to contribute to how I got into Linux episodes, but that's not for today.
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I have been using Linux for 15 years already.
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I've also been trying for almost 15 years to convince other people to try Linux.
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And I must confess that I very often used wrong arguments doing this.
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After 15 years, it is time to ditch some fake arguments and to tell you the real reasons
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why you should switch to Linux.
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I am not the only one that tried to convince people using fake arguments.
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It's a common problem.
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As an experiment, I recently asked Google, Varum Linux.
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That's why Linux, but in Dutch.
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I asked it in Dutch because that's what my friends would typically do.
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If they were interested at all.
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The first search result was a website that looked as it had been around for a long time.
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It listed some of the commonly heard arguments.
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But of course, Google filters its results based on what it knows of me.
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So I asked that the go as well.
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The first result I got was a blog post from 2012 with similar arguments.
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So both pages I found were quite old, what explains why some arguments were outdated.
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Yet you still heard those arguments very often and often they are wrong.
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I take a look at the common ones.
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So do not try Linux.
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Do not try Linux because you don't have to pay for it.
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You don't have to pay money for downloading or using Linux.
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That's a fact, but it is no argument.
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When you buy a PC, you get an operating system as well.
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You pay it for the operating system that came for your PC, but that doesn't matter.
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At that time, installing Linux doesn't save you money anymore.
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You could buy a PC without an operating system, could you?
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It's not that easy.
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If you want that, I think you will have to go to a specialized supplier.
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So prices might be higher than at a local discounter,
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where they offer PCs with windows at low prices once and again.
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Do not use Linux because Linux is faster.
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I strongly doubt that a PC will work faster after installing Linux.
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If you install a mainstream distribution, like Linux Mint or Ubuntu,
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with default settings today, then your PC better had enough memory and processing power.
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Modern Linux distributions have modern requirements,
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just like this is the case with other operating systems.
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It is true that you can make all PCs usable again with Linux.
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But only if you have enough experience to select and configure a distribution.
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If your distribution is fast and has a small memory footprint,
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this will probably be at the expense of usability.
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Do not use Linux because you can install it quickly.
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It doesn't matter that you can install Linux quickly.
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There's already an operating system on your PC.
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This is always faster than setting up something new.
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Do not use Linux because open source software is more secure.
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Since hard bleed, shell shock, and drip a get-em,
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we know that open source software is vulnerable just like any other kind of software.
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I do believe that chances on errors in a source code become smaller
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as more people look at it.
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But the source code being available doesn't guarantee that people are actually looking.
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I found shell shock very impressive.
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This vulnerability has been a documented feature in Bash for more than 20 years.
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During those 20 years, simply no one noticed
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that this feature could be abused for unwanted things.
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I often made fun of Windows security in the past,
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and I was probably right at the time.
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But Microsoft has come a long way.
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I believe that the architecture of Windows 7 is such that you can configure it in a secure way.
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But, as with Linux, a system is only as secure as you configure it.
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Windows is often criticized because it's very easy to get administrative privileges.
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But with Ubuntu and derivatives, the process isn't a lot different.
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And imagine that you install puppy Linux
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because you are looking for a quick distribution.
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Then you log in as ruled by default.
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If you use Linux, you generally don't need antivirus software.
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Well, if you keep your Windows always up to date,
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and if you use Windows with an administrator account,
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and you have some basic knowledge about how the Internet works,
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I think you don't have to worry about antivirus software.
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Antivirus software doesn't work as good as it used to either
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because a lot of viruses today are smart enough to encrypt themselves.
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Do not use Linux because it is more stable.
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On the server, maybe.
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But most of the people you want to convince to use Linux
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are not going to set up a server.
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At best, they want to try it on their laptops.
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But if they, just to say something,
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have an Nvidia graphics card,
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I dare say that the stability might be NSU.
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Do not use Linux because you get free support from a fine community.
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If you have a question about Linux, just ask Google.
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Google usually takes you to a discussion on Stack Exchange,
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and then you find the correct answer.
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Chances are you do.
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Chances are you don't.
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It depends.
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But do not tell anybody,
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but if you have a question about Windows,
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this approach probably works as well.
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And I suspect this is also the case for Android and Apple OSs.
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And although I've had many positive experiences
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in open source communities,
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it is certainly not always a bed of roses.
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Sometimes people can be very brutal
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as Leonard Puttering says in a random Google Plus.
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I won't pretend that Puttering always behaves exemplary,
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but even if he doesn't,
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this cannot be an excuse for other's bad behavior.
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Do not use Linux because you need to fight Microsoft to great enemy.
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This is not really an argument from the pages
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that I found through the various search engines,
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but it is one that I often used myself in the past.
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And in the past, I was right without doubt.
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But today, this is not longer the case, I think.
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The days when Microsoft has the only player on the market are over.
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I just had a look on the user's pets
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for the website of the nonprofit organization I work for.
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Windows share is only 65%.
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iOS accounts for 15%.
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Macintosh and Android take both 9%.
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Windows is not alone anymore.
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And Microsoft knows this very well.
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In recent years, Microsoft is investing more in interoperability
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and open source.
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In the near future,
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you will be able to host ASP.NET web applications
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on our Linux server with Mono.
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Today, there is Microsoft Office software for Android and iOS.
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A fair amount of.NET Live will be developed
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by Microsoft, like entity framework,
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and ASP.NET MVC are available
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on their patch 2 open source license.
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It wouldn't surprise me if Windows will eventually
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be given away for free, as in beer, just like Android.
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Granted, Microsoft is still a monster with multiple heads.
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While one of the heads is friendly towards the open source
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community, another head is using projects
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over software patents.
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Jeremy Ellison of the SAMBA project told at 2014
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that he worked together with Microsoft on SAMBA 4.
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But on the other hand,
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he was very happy that he could come to Brussels
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for wants to speak at for them
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instead of having to deal with judges.
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Nevertheless, I think Microsoft is slowly changing.
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I hear more positive stories than before.
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Microsoft is no longer the enemy to fight.
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That time has passed.
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The company that you should keep an eye on today
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are Apple and Google.
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I hear more disturbing stories about toast
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than about Microsoft.
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I might tell you more about this another time.
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Do not use Linux because you have everything.
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Thunderbird and LibreOffice.
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I hear this too often.
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All the necessary software is available.
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For example, Thunderbird and LibreOffice.
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Seriously, office and email,
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is that what you need?
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In 2000 perhaps, but today, I think not.
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Office is just a thing that you don't need.
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If you do your work in office
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or in your mail client,
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then I think you are doing it wrong.
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What you need is a browser, a document reader,
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and a decent text editor.
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And if you insist, maybe a spreadsheet.
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If you've got those tools, you're ready to go.
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Do not put emphasis on LibreOffice.
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If you are talking about LibreOffice,
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people will compare it to Microsoft Office.
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And Microsoft Office is more streamlined, like it or not.
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But really, that's not relevant.
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You don't need an office so today.
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If you insist to do something like Microsoft Office,
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use Google Docs.
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But I think there will always be better solutions.
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So should you still use Linux?
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Are there still valid reasons, of course?
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Otherwise, I would not be using it myself.
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So here is what everyone has been waiting for,
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the real reasons why everyone should be a fan of Linux.
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You have access to a wide range of easy to install software.
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If you install a mainstream Linux distribution,
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you have access to a very wide range of software packages,
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via the so-called software repository.
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You can compare this with an App Store.
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You want to install an application to edit pictures or audio.
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You need a programming environment for any programming language.
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You can download and install this automatically.
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Today, there are many App Store's around.
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But I have the impression that the quality of the applications
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in Linux software repositories is generally higher
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than the quality of, for example, AppSync Google Play.
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The application in the Linux repository
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certainly contains significantly less ads.
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And they are easy to update.
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Did you ever use Java or Flash on Windows 7?
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Then you know the pop-up asking you to update.
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But updating doesn't work,
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because the installers don't ask for elevated permissions.
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If you hate this as much as I do,
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try Linux Mint and be delighted.
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If you install a major Linux distribution,
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you end up with a nice consistent system.
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You've got a text editor, a sound recorder,
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a document shewer, a web browser, and so on.
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And in most of the cases, they have more or less the same look and feel.
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Of course, you are free to install 100 different sound recorders
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if you want to, but in a standard install,
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you have one, the one that the distribution likes the most.
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I wanted to mention this explicitly,
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because this is not a case for Windows 8.1.
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There, you have two document viewers,
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one for the desktop, one for Metro,
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and two sound recorders, one for the desktop, one for Metro,
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two web browsers, and I could carry on.
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Windows 8.1 is young.
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Windows 10 will probably be more mature.
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But if you want a major Linux distribution,
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there is plenty of choice today.
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No crapware.
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Did I tell you that your operating system is installed as good as for free
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when you buy a new computer?
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What I forgot to tell is that very often,
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a lot of other software is installed for free as well.
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A lot of software you actually don't want or need.
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Maybe this is less the case for Apple products,
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but they are also less as good as for free.
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I bet you've seen them before.
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Those programs that to whom knows what and start to complain
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after a certain amount of time that you have to purchase a license.
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Maybe the software also provides information about you
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to some third party. It's hard to tell.
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A moving it is not always easy because it is often unclear
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what exactly is required to use your PC and what isn't.
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A Linux distribution is almost never pre-installed.
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So you have to go through a tedious installation procedure.
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But after that, you have this clean system without preppy software.
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That alone makes up for the inconvenience of installing.
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And if for any reason you need to complete re-install of a PC,
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Linux is the easiest solution as well.
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Download the image and you get started without having to search for a license key.
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And then there is the number one reason to try Linux.
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Linux is free or open source software.
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The first majority of the applications that come with a Linux distribution
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is free software as well.
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When you install free and open source software,
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then by definition you have access to the source code of the software.
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This means that you can check whether that software doesn't do things you don't want.
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Or if you don't like studying source code,
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you can let an independent party check it out for you.
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If you use software without having access to the source code,
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you have to trust your supplier.
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Does the software things where you're not aware of?
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Does it open a back door into your computer so that instance X or Y
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can check whether you behave well?
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Can that instance also turn off your computer if you don't behave?
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And to what extent are back doors secured against trackers with malicious intent?
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Obviously, I didn't read the source code of all software I use.
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I don't compile all my software myself to be sure that the software was effectively created from the source code.
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But the fact that I know I can brings me some peace of mind.
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Nowadays, more and more devices can be connected to the internet.
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Phones, watches, home automation, cars wouldn't be heavy if my car doors could be opened
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because of a hidden back door in the software.
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The only way to keep an eye on the behavior of your devices is using open source software.
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Unfortunately, I cannot choose which software is used in my car, but on my PC, I can.
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And I'd like to defend this freedom as long as possible.
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So I've made my point just as there are bad arguments that people use to discourage the use of open source software.
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There are also bad arguments that are used to promote it.
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I would like you to use arguments that make sense if you try to convince people to use open source.
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I have a transcript of this text on my blog.
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It is at joanv.org slash post slash y-linux.
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That is j-o-h-a-n-v.org slash post slash y-linux.
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If you have comments, you can post them into the discussion thread on the page.
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Or if you prefer not to work with the evil disk system on the page, you can even send a pull request.
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You can do that too if you want to correct my bad English.
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