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Episode: 392
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Title: HPR0392: Interview with Dual Core
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Source: https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/ccdn.php?filename=/eps/hpr0392/hpr0392.mp3
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Transcribed: 2025-10-07 19:38:14
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You're right.
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You're right.
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This is Clat 2 and I'm at the Southeast Linux Fest with right now DualCore.
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Is DualCore the band or the person?
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DualCore is actually the group.
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It's myself and Dadey, I'm the rapper and then my producer is C64 who lives in Manchester
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England and joined with us today is our special guest Remington Forbes.
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Cool.
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So hi, DualCore.
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Hello.
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What's going on?
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So, do you guys make music about what, Linux or Geeksza for both, all of the above?
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All of the above.
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So, we've got songs that really run the gamut.
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My name is Dadey, comes from the of course the assembly call in Linux on X86 architecture.
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So, we of course cover Linux and our topic.
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We got songs about Star Wars, Mega Man.
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You name it, we very well may have wrapped about it.
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Right, okay.
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How and when did you get started?
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Well, I used to freestyle when I was in college and Remi and I were at a conference, not a
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concrete in Cleveland and we were at this room party and somebody was like, hey, there's
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someone here from Cincinnati that can rap.
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And so I thought there was somebody else from Cincinnati, but they turned out they were
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talking about us.
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So, we just started rapping about the stuff we do day to day with technology and everything
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and everybody really loved it.
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Okay.
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What did you go to school for?
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What was programmers or what, computer scientists?
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I went to school now to attend it for computer network engineering.
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Okay.
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But he's a phys admin and a network engineer, a network admin and his job and then I went
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to school for computer science and ID security.
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How much time do you think, I mean, it probably varies, like when you're gearing up for an
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album it's probably more, but I mean how much time do you have to spend on making music
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every day or week or whatever?
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Definitely not a whole lot.
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I mean, my job keeps a good number of hours going every week, but I have a very understanding
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girlfriend who lets me record it after she's gone to sleep, or if I need to skip out
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on something we've got planned because I need to get a track done for an album or something
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like that, she's really understanding stuff.
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That's cool.
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It's hard to put a quantity on the number of hours per week.
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Right.
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I mean, I would say in the past week, I've probably logged a good 20 to 30 hours working
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on our latest album.
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And what is the latest album?
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Is it out yet?
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Not yet.
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It's going to be definitively titled next level and we're planning to release it next
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month.
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Our initial projected release date with Steph Kahn, though our listeners might get a surprise
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and we might be able to release it a little bit earlier than that.
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Just, I mean, on the technical end of things, like are you a hardware based mostly or are
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you doing this on a Linux like digital audio workstation or I mean how kind of describe
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for me like I guess how digital all comes about?
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Yeah.
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So I've got a condenser mic in my basement that I just bought at Guitar Center and I just
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raffened it out.
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It runs into my desktop and then that records the vocals and I STPM up to my producer and
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he takes him and dumps him into his mix of the background music that he's made and then
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he goes to work from there.
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Wow.
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That's great.
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So also, Remi and I are involved with 2600 in Cincinnati.
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I was going to ask about that actually.
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Yeah.
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I forgot.
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We meet once a month and we cover all kinds of topics.
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We started out mainly focused on security.
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I did a lot of application security presentations and how to hack this, how to exploit that.
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But the groups are really grown and we have a wide range of interest now in the group.
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So it's pretty cool.
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That's cool.
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Where do you guys meet?
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Yeah.
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Let me ask.
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We're out.
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Yes.
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Just like a restaurant or something.
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Yeah.
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We're out.
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It's like a bar.
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It's like a bar and a half.
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Yes.
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An actual smell.
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I guess like confitron.
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Yeah, they have like a background.
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Three, five, nine.
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And they're really good.
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I mean, we've been meeting there for three years.
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And like the owner knows us.
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She's really nice and they're happy to have us there.
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Cool.
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Unfortunately, we've kind of been getting like bigger attendance at the meetings as of late.
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I mean, that's a good thing.
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That's it.
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So it's fortunate.
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But unfortunate, it kind of fills the room that we're in.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Some of our guys have been working on getting a hacker space set up.
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Wow.
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And they've just been working in the past couple of months.
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But they just signed their 501-C3 papers the other day.
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Wow.
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Got a bank account set up.
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And I think they're closing on the space that we're going to get like to lie first.
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I think that's fantastic.
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So it's awesome.
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So I think we might be worth 2600 meetings to the hacker space since then adding out.
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Wow.
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That's really cool.
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I mean, the 2600 in where I live is like three to ten people.
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Yeah.
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But it just got started back up.
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I guess it used to be more of a college.
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It would happen in a college.
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And then that kind of died down as people graduate, stuff like that.
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But yeah, it's neat to hear about one that's like actually growing and growing out of where it was supposed to be.
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That's really cool.
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Yeah.
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And we're very fortunate because we're actually the new generation of our 2600 Cincinnati.
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I remember going to a meeting of the previous generation.
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And there was.
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They're all about phone freaking.
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And stuff like that that we don't really have an idea of anymore, right?
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Right.
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Well, actually not to knock anybody from our previous generation tonight, but they didn't seem to be about anything.
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They all came to the meeting.
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They were all in this place and then they all just got on IRC.
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Yeah.
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And they didn't do any presentations.
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They didn't talk about anything.
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Yeah.
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They just all did the same thing that they do at home.
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So I was like, what?
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I don't understand.
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Like 2600 is kind of a time to like geek out and show everybody else what you're geeked about.
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Right.
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It was kind of weird.
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That we got now like they're real cool.
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We come and we do, you know, monthly topics or monthly presentation and all that stuff.
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I see we got to do with the 2600 Blue Box shirt right there.
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There you go.
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Right on, man.
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Do you want to have a listen to some horror music?
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Yeah.
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Let me tell her out.
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So you are a rapper as well or you're doing music or both?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean like the music music.
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Oh, you're talking about the production.
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Yeah.
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I'm just a rapper.
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Okay.
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I don't do, I don't do producing anything like that.
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Yeah.
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I don't know these terms.
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So I always think of...
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They're kind of like a few things.
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Yeah.
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You're like, yes.
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Are you trying to say rappers on that?
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Yeah.
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No.
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That's...
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Yeah.
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I forget that in the rap community.
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For music is like the actual...
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Actual beat beats and melody.
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Yeah.
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In the background.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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So the person doing all the music is actually a England?
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In England.
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Yeah.
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Wow, that's crazy.
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Now how did you meet up with...
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I mean like you guys meet each other online or something?
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Yeah, I just met him on an underground hip-hop forum.
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And...
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No.
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That was it.
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I liked his stuff and he seemed to like my stuff.
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Yeah.
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He said, hey, do you want to do an album?
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And I said, yeah, but this is what I want to do it about.
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And he said, okay.
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Wow.
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He's a graphic designer.
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So he's a nerd too.
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Yeah, yeah.
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He's like, yeah, that's cool.
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It just kind of strikes me that...
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Can I get you an album?
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Yeah.
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I've been doing...
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I've been doing geeky stuff.
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It can take a long time.
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I'm sure.
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Or it seems like geeky.
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It could be very absorbing.
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I'm just wondering how you pry yourself away from making the music and also sitting in front
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of the computer staring at that, which is a string full of code being compiled or something.
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I'm actually a packet capturing right now.
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Oh, okay.
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I can't help it.
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I'm just wondering if you can pull out people's user names and passwords.
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Cool.
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Yeah.
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Well, I guess with me, the music part comes...
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Really, when I do music and I write, and I write lyrics, I kind of draw some draw from
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my stances with, you know, with acting or anything technology related.
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So it kind of comes a little bit easier.
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So it's almost...
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I mean, it's kind of like a blog.
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I mean, not to be little, it's kind of like a blog.
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I consider writing a blog.
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You're like, you make a song about it.
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Yeah.
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And we're awesome.
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Yeah.
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That's a good analogy, I like that.
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I mean, that's because that's what I mean, I don't wrap.
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But I will blog just random stuff because I'm like, I'll spend an hour trying to figure something
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out.
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It'll work.
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Yeah.
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And I'll go online and just like quickly just blog almost just to kind of get the experience
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down.
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But also so that someone can, you know, follow up on it and stuff.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's cool.
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Apologies to the listeners because we're like at the dual core table and so people come up
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and so you...
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It's kind of...
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Yeah.
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Kind of crazy here, actually.
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I mean, people are just...
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Oh, man.
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They've been speaking of which.
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Yeah.
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So why do you think people would come to a conference like this and not tunnel via SSH?
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They don't have better.
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Yeah?
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Sure.
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I mean, I've been to hacker conferences.
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People blogging into Facebook.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I see that stuff all the time.
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Yeah.
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Pop 3 and I'm at it and they don't...
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They just don't know.
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Yeah.
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Is it a big deal?
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For instance, if I log into my Facebook, I'm not tunneling.
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I log into my Facebook.
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I mean, big deal.
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I mean, I'm fake name, fake name, random password that I don't use anywhere else.
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No big deal, right?
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But I think a lot of people that use a password for Facebook also use it elsewhere.
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Yeah.
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I'm not guilty of that.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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I mean, either.
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So you're both actually working in network industry.
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Are you...
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Are you seeing a lot of...
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I mean, are you living in Linux even on the job?
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Or is there a lot of...
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I work at a data center.
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So we also have a lot of Linux servers.
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So I deal with Linux on a day of Linux.
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What's a run Linux?
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Maybe if you make a run.
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Right.
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Cool.
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What's the obligatory...
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What distro do you run?
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Debian.
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Debian at home.
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Debian.
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Yeah.
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And our random...
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Debian.
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Ah, okay.
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And Debian.
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Lots and lots of Debian.
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Also Debian.
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Which...
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Are you running the new one?
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The...
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Linux?
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Or are you on state or something?
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I think I...
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I'm running.
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I'm running.
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I'm running.
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Yeah.
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Linux for Remi and...
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Without even knowing, you just run.
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Right.
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Ready for Remi.
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It's natural.
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You become a geek and you suddenly become...
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I'm on Linux on my EPC, but I've got a sin repository.
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I normally run unstable because it's got all the need to stop.
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And it's really not unstable.
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It's not unstable.
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It's not that unstable.
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That's what I...
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I ran...
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I sit on my triveley for a couple of months.
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And yeah, I was like...
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I mean, I'm used to...
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I mean, some of the fedora unstable stuff is really unstable.
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Like, when they say it's unstable, I mean it.
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But on Linux...
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I mean, I'm sick.
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It seems like...
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You can get by really well.
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Yeah.
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And I've run Debian on a stable for years and I mean...
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It's definitely my choice.
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Yeah.
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My preference, I should say.
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Where can they find out about you guys?
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Do you have a...
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A webpage?
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We are all over the web.
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DualcoreMusic.com, youtube.com slash.
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DualcoreMusic.
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MySpace.com slash.
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DualcoreMusic.
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Clicker.com slash.
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DualcoreMusic.
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Twitter.com slash.
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DualcoreMusic.
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And look up Dualcore on Facebook.
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You'll see our album covers, our icon.
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And add us as a friend.
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Get us up.
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Cool.
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All right.
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Thanks a lot, guys.
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Have a nice day.
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Have a nice day.
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Thank you.
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Thank you for listening to Hack with Public Radio.
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