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Episode: 2918
Title: HPR2918: Selecting random item from weighted list
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Transcribed: 2025-10-24 13:15:15

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This is HBR episode 2918 entitled Selecting Random Item from Weighted List and in part
of the series, Haskell, it is hosted by Tuku Toroto and in about 27 minutes long and
Karima Clean Flag.
The summary is how to Selected Random Item from Weighted List using Haskell.
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Hello, you're listening to the Hacker Public Radio and this is Tuku Toroto talking about
picking random items from Weighted List using Haskell.
As a title suggests, I'm going to talk about how to select random items for Weighted List.
There is too much of code this time, but it certainly took quite a while to get this working correctly.
The Weighted List, we have a list of items that have some weight and then you'll see how
the algorithms will pick one item from the list and those items with higher weight should
be more likely to be picked.
An analogy I came up with is that we have a stack of building blocks of different sizes
and that height of the building block is the likelihood of it getting selected.
Then you stack them on top of each other or that doesn't matter and then you random it
show a stick so that its length is minimum of one and a maximum of the heightness of the stack
and then you put the stick next to the stack and where it reaches is the one that you're going to pick.
That's what we are going to do and on the code side we have a list of items and those items
are defined as a Frequence A and the Frequence A is a type that has a wallware constructor of
Frequence in A so it can be A can be anything and int is that date and since A can be anything
we can have we can use this algorithm or system of whatever for with any kind of data.
Of course they have to have to be same for each of the items that you put in the same list
and the total sum of those weights is the tollness of the stack in the analogy.
We need to select a random number between one and total. I'm going to look more closely into that in a moment
and then we have a little help of function called pick that actually does the comparing and picking
the element but before we look into implementation of this we have to make a quick tickle into the
random number generators. I talked about them not too long ago but the thing is that they
in Haskell functions are pure so same input same output always so if you call a function or apply
a function twice with exactly same parameters you are going to get the exactly same result which
kind of means the randomness on a first glance is extremely hard but this is sold in a way that
you are passing in a random number generator and that random number generator is
but purely deterministic meaning that if you call the same random number generator
twice it will give you the same answer but it will also give you the new random number generator
so when you call a random number generator and say that give me a number between one and ten you
are going to get a number and you are going to get a new random number generator and then you call
that one again and say that give me number to you one and then you are going to get a different answer
and yet again and yet a new random number generator but passing around that new random number generator
and you have to remember which one is the newest one you have to always pass that around the one
that has been has is the result of the latest computation it gets tedious to pass it around
and you have to remember to return the correct one because for example if if our
our picking item from the list wouldn't return the random number generator
we could call that list and call that a function that gets the item from the list twice
using the same random number generator and we could get two two same results and that
amivia current it gets two same results and that's kind of not what I would call random
so you have to always remember to return that new generator and that gets tedious
but luckily this solution to this and call monads I'm going to do a tutorial about them
because while I know how to use them in some context I don't I can't explain them very
enough and there's so many tutorials that internet already about them that if you're interested
on that theory behind them you can go and find a suitable one to work on that is
but I can show what you do what to do with them especially in this case so we have a
monarch called monadrandom that's a type class and there's a it has several functions
we are only interested in one in this case the basic idea is the same with everything but there's
a function called getrandom r that has a type of random a set arrow double of a a arrow ma so
a is anything that has a random instance basically anything that you can generate random number
random values of it doesn't have to be a number you could have a function that the
for example could generate your random booleans you just say that I want random boolean and it
basically seems to slip so coin which one you're going to get through of all but anyway random a
set arrow double a a arrow ma is the type signature so a is something that has a random
instance couple of couple a a is a couple with two values lower bound and upper bound you're
asking value between these two pounds inclusively and result is ma and ma here is the monadrandom
r actually it's a run and a is our value so if it gives a it gives you a value between lower
and higher bound and that value is returned in the context that carries the random number
of generator so now that you have the not that the m holds the random number of generator actually the monadrandom
context you can use this one as a basis of a next operator operation when you are when you are
operating in a within the monadrandom in your computation you can call get random a multiple times
and you don't have to worry about passing in the random number generator or taking the new value
with you just kea but the result of the random call and the monad x ke of the
trading that new random number generator along the computation so we just use just the get random
and that's it but in the end if you have a big computation doing some randoms but we are left with the
ma and we have to somehow turn this ma into a and for that there's a function from run run that has
a touch signature of random gen g sat arou rank kea arou g arou ag
double ag sorry okay might be a good idea to look into show note at this point what that what
does this mean is that the g is a random gen meaning that g is something that can generate random
values for you that has a specific specific functions specific interface random gen is a
tag class okay g is that so we have when we are calling run run we have to give it a run kea
this is what we get from the as a result of the computation that uses monadranda
a is our a is the result that we want a g is that random generator coming from somewhere and
result is double of ag so we get a couple of the first element is our n's and second element is
that new random generator so essentially we when we are using that that random r we are constructing
a computation that results to run kea that is that is that is what we want and then we run this
computation with run grant and we get double of ag as a result first element is being that what
we are after and second element is the new random number generator we can also do a eval
that is similar that has a similar signature it has a random gen g set our grant g a our g our a
exactly same as previously except that the final that the result will be just a instead of double
ag so we are getting a value that we are after as a result but we are discarding the new state of the
random number generator sometimes this is what we want sometimes we need that new random number
generator so it depends on the case which one to use so if you if you got the well the basic idea is
that we are using that monocrandom to construct a computation that depends on a some
something that can generate random values for us and then we use that something to give us
the final result then leave the trick here is that since that our computation is not necessary
but it can be usually it is it can be pure meaning that same data goes in same data goes out
so we can have a really big computation that uses randomness and if we call it with the exact same
values we get it's the same result that every single one and the only only thing that changes here
is that runs g that that I'm sorry front random ten g that is the what generates as random values
so if you use the same random number generator twice to call our computation that ought to run our
computation we get the same result back okay let's look into actual into the actual implementation
hopefully this make this will make my explanation a little bit clearer so first we have a
frequency which is for expressing weight of individual item in a list it's parameterized so you can
use it with any data you can have a frequency int you can have frequency pool you can have frequency
your own data data byte so this one works with everything and it's divided as data frequency a
equals frequency int a and then deriving show it equal so you can have a one-value of a in that
then next is a little function that is used to determine to determine which item to choose from the
list based on the wage based on based on the list and the random number generator random number
that has been already picked so and in case the value is outside of the
valid range so it's a less than one or it's a
created and the length of the or the created and the total sum sum of the wage some of the total
wage some some of the wage then it also doesn't require anything so it returns mapping otherwise
it returns just a so it always returns something but it can be just a in case where the values are
reasonable or it can be nothing than some parameter values okay and our definition for that is
pick has a has a signature of list of frequency a arrow int arrow may be a so given a list of
frequencies and the number it returns a may be a pick a empty list underscore equals nothing so
if you calling this with an empty list you are going to get nothing it does nothing you can
pick from the empty list the more interesting case is pick open patterns frequency x item
colon xs close burn i so we are deconstructing the parameter and i is the index to pick from or
then random number to use to picking on and frequency x item colon xs means that frequency x item
is the first item of the list and xs is rest of the list then there's a five i less or equals
an x equals just item five otherwise equals pick xs open by an i minus x close by so what happens
yeah there's a case of there's a this is called card i should explain them more closely but
hope you you can follow them maybe to a proper episode later i'm doing this is incompletely
from order apparently so there's two cases one is that the i our random number is less or equal
to wait of the first item in the list then we are returning i sorry so i is yeah i is less or
equal to the weight of the first item of the list then we are going to return that first item
otherwise we are going to pick item and we are so we are recursively calling we are going to
use pick xs so rest of the list we are dropping the first item of the list and we are
subtracting the weight of the our first item from the total weight so basically you could
visualize this as a taking the bottom cube from the stack and shorten in the stick with the height
of that height of that cube or building block the end result is that you have a
loose stack where the which has one item less and which has a foot where the stick still reaches
exactly same point and then this repeats until you find the find the item where the top of the stick
reaches or if something goes wrong and the stick is longer than the stack you end up with the empty
list and then the first case pick empty empty list underscore equals nothing gets in and you get
nothing as a result so this is how this is how you pick the item and then we need the
finally we need the calculating the total of weights for frequencies and choosing the random
number and we are using that random g maybe a as a as our pipe here so we might or might not
get our result for example like I said empty list would complete into the nothing and since we are
dealing with random numbers and don't want to pass around that random number generator we are
going to use that monarch that I talk about moment ago monarch random so the signature for our
function choose this the function that you use to actually choose the random item from the list
uh that signature is a random chain g set arrow list of frequency a, arrow, and g maybe a
and two cases again choose empty list equals further on nothing
this is the in case of the empty list doesn't matter what you what random number you have for
anything just get nothing as a result I said result and notice that because we are using that
monarch random and we are not just saying choose empty list equals nothing we have to say choose
empty list equals return nothing return is a function that rushes out nothing into that rank g
so it's not a return as in pretty much any every every other languages it's a trap our result in
is out of the trunk g then the more interesting case choose two items so we have a list equals two
uh let's total equals some dollar f map uh lambda frequency x underscore equals uh arrow x items
so what we are doing here we are using a we are creating a random numbers function that
given a frequency of frequency a will return you the weight of it that in and then we are
applying that to every item in the list so we get a list of of the free one of the wage and then
we are using some to add all those together so now total is the total sum of those wage next time
and left arrow arrow get random a open bar and one comma total close by so here we are using
that get random ah that I mentioned earlier we are picking a random number between one and the total
and because we are using a monarch we have to use the left arrow notice so that first line we
have the same up things that's a that's a regular function called that was let total equals something
here and left arrow get random ah is a you is using this specific properties or rules of what
is a often often monatrandom meaning that this left arrow notation causes causes the
causes the monatrandom to trade in that random number generator so here we are using the random number
generator even when we are not talking about it and we are also taking it the new random number generator
and passing it along when we are not mentioning it this is really convenient like we don't have to
worry about that at all and the last line is return dollar tick items in so we are calling
how a tick function with all the items and with the random number that we choose and returning
the value rather into random so that's that's all all that they is so they isn't that much of the code
but there's a relatively lot of things happening and now we can randomly now we can have a
weighted list of items and we can randomly choose items from there and for example if we have a
list of two items one with a weight of one one with a weight of two and we pick 100 times from
that list we should end up having the one item as 33 and pizza percent of times and the second item
66 percent of time and a bit because roundings so it probably sounds a lot more complicated than
the actual list I arrived to the threshold after quite many details like I had a I had a first
I had a version that just took a random number generator never returned it then I realized that I
can't just that this a part of a ticket computation without losing the random number generator or actually the state of the new random number generator
then I had a version that returned the couple of of the value that I wanted the new random number generator
and that get tedious to pass around so after some reading I found that there's this
monotrandom that I can use that the front GA to return any value and have to have the systems to take care
of the passing around that random number generator so it was it just meant that I tried a lot of things
until I found one that looked reasonable for what it's working and then did quite a cleaning and
it probably took a couple of months even though I wasn't actively working on it I will
for the one version and then work on some other stuff and learned new things and then came back and fixed things
but anyway so it's not it's not case that you just sit down and think that okay I need this kind of function
and then you write it from starting from the beginning and going to the end you and well at least I
have to do a lot of trial and error and experimenting and refining refining but now that we know
how to pick random numbers sorry random items from the way that we can do some nifty things
but I'm going to talk about those next times I'm going to do some some practical to some values
of practical things with the choose function so into to fund so what we got here is a choose that
has a signal signal of random gen g cut out of frequent list of frequency a are all run g may be a
so we can given a list we can pick one item from there and in the meantime questions comments
and feedback welcome best way to reach me now this is the email or in the fediverse where I am to
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